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hi welcome to the international space

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station flight control room i'm brandi

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dean i'm a public affairs officer here

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at nasa at johnson space center and i've

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got with me today jason dyer who's one

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of our flight robotics flight

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controllers jason thanks so much for

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joining us you want to tell them a

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little bit about yourself sure good

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morning

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my name is jason dyer i've been a

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robotic flight controller down here at

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nasa for just over 10 years originally

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from canada in ontario

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and i've been loving this job ever since

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i started

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what are some of the things that you do

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as a robotics flight controller we do a

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lot of

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planning for the robotics here on the

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space station we train the crew on how

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to use the both the canada arm

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the activities on the ground support

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that we do on ground training and then

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obviously we continue our own

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certification

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and for up here in the flight control

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room as well and just in case i bet

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they've looked it up but why don't you

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tell them what the canada arm is so the

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canada arm it's actually the second

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cannon arm the first round of canadarms

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retired with space shuttles a few years

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ago but our second generation arm now

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is fully maintained on the space station

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and allows us to

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walk all over the space station using

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mobile transporting system and along

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with that and

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spdm or dexter

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we do robotics activities to repair um

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on orbit

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repairable units

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all right so i think you'll have some

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questions for us now

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uh yes uh what inspired you to choose

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your profession and work at nasa

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ah that's a really good question i've

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been looking at the stars since i was

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like six years old as i'm sure a lot of

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people do

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i had a telescope i think for my seventh

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birthday and i was about to do anything

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i could possibly do to get down here

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into a space program or would have been

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this one uh the spacecraft program i

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joined in in canada that sent me down

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here to this international partnership

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and whether i support it on the ground

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or ultimately become an astronaut who's

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capable of flying up there i was just

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next question

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can you describe a typical day at work

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nothing

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big happening i guess just an everyday

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on the job kind of thing you know i

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really wish it was the same nine to five

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thing every single day one of the

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interesting really interesting things

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about this job is that it's so dynamic

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i don't think i could cut and paste

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one day or even one week's worth of

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activities to make them to say every

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single every single day or every single

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my days can be

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dynamic in the fact that i could be here

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in the flight control room that you see

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behind me i could spend an entire day

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i could be out at the neutral buoyancy

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lab helping train astronauts in both

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for spacewalk or using the arm and the

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neutral buoyancy lab is a giant swimming

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pool basically so that's pretty cool

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my day could be over in the simulator

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the space station simulator which we all

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work together as a big huge team

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operation type simulations

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or i could be sitting at my desk writing

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what are some life-changing things you

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that that's a great philosophical

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question but honestly it's you've really

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got to enjoy your job um you you're

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going to have some bad days and i don't

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care what job you have you're going to

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have some bad days and as long as you

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love your job and you love what you do

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those back days go by fairly quickly and

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you can just enjoy the stuff that you

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um you talked about the neutral buoyancy

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lab what are the differences between

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being in the neutral blind syllab like

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so the next best thing we can do is in

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the neutral buoyancy lab we can balance

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with some weights and that balance

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basically simulates the best we can do

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for zero gravity and that allows

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the crew members to train

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uh so it's it's the best we can do it's

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really the best people to ask for that

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see what they could say is as the

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missions and stage activities and which

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a lot of fond memories of some of the

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shifts that i've done

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installations of modules um some of the

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solar rays uh i was on console for those

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memorable three most memorable events

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that i have is one

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back early uh we were unfurling a uh new

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solar array that was going to give power

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to the station and it got stuck

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the entire team

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non-stop operations that was pretty

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work environment it's basically a giant

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observatory here on the space station

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the crew loves it

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ground because it provides some

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excellent photos of the earth as they go

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by and it was my robotics team that

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installed that work currently is that

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emergency team that fixed the pump

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issues like that that's what we trained

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it's hard to uh explain to people that

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that aren't in this environment what's

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what's the situation we're in we're

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basically working

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um you know 15 16 hour shifts non-stop

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trying to get all these products done

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that we usually normally have weeks or

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can't make an error

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having to shut down the space station

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and i think it's not so much scary as as

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in challenging and it's that challenge

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what is your opinion and or personal

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view on if you on the future of space

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exploration

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i i'm always happy to hear that we're

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you know most countries or most agencies

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are pressing forward um obviously there

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are difficulties right now in setting

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priorities and stuff like that and each

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it is nice to be here in an

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each one of them is still providing some

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sort of resources to keep this program

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going and as long as we keep that

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philosophy of i'll just keep going

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forward keep going forward i think we'll

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what applications might your work have

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that's a really good question um you

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gathering of skill sets that you learn

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what is the most complex robot that

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aerospace engineering and material

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me the basic skill sets i needed to come

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most complex robot i have seen is what

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you know thousands of lines of code

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it's it's just incredible to see the

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amount of software and hardware that's

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certified scuba diver and a lot of the

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getting used to of not being able to

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scuba diver and i would imagine that

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how do you think nasa will go about

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conserving fuel for the trip to mars by

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2030 and what fuel will be most

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efficient for this trip and why

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that's a really excellent question um

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and uh

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you know it's really hard to answer it

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will all depend on what's going on at

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the time and what priorities and when we

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do it

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if we look at say the space shuttle

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you know the solid rocket boosters were

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using one type of fuel then we went to

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the hydrogen oxygen mix for a different

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type of fuel and then when we were on

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orbit we had a third type of fuel with

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the the thrusters

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i would imagine the mars mission would

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be similar depending on which

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stage of the activity that we're in

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it would also depend on when we do it

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whether we develop new technologies or

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new ideas on how to produce

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thrust or whatever we need to do so

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to give you an exact

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fuel of what we would use be very

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difficult right now

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but i think it's an excellent question

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i'm sure many engineers are down here

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are thinking about the same thing right

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now too we actually have a group here at

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johnson space center who is working on

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what they call in-situ resource

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utilization which is basically a big

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fancy way of saying living off the land

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and hopefully

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they're looking into ways that we might

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be able to to get the fuel that we need

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where we go so if we can find

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a way to produce the fuel that we need

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to get back

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on mars then we don't have to take as

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much with us when we go

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before you're saying how your eyes kind

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of like disagree with your inner ear and

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you'll you see something that you're you

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don't really it doesn't really feel the

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same way

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so like if you're upside down you'll see

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as if you were like you think you're

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falling by your inner ear do you kind of

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just feel like you're

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just floating around you don't really

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feel like you're going down or anything

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like that you just feel

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constant i guess you could say

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so you i think your question is

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borderlining on on what it's like to get

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vertigo

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which happens both when you're on a very

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tall building looking down and actually

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you're exactly right it happens when

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you're in zero gravity or even scuba

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diving at the same time it's basically

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your eyes thinking or not being able to

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determine between where you are and

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where you should be

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and your body your inner ear not sensing

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and not lining up with that intuition

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and unfortunately getting vertigo some

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people handle it handle it better than

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others but

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yeah you can feel kind of queasy if your

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hello again

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um i understand you work with a lot of

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technology so i was wondering what you

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think of the recent massive solar flares

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uh

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what kind of concerns they might it

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might have to you

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well the the sun's been all around for

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quite a long time and i'm sure this is

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part of its solar cycles

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it's always spitting out stuff it's

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always it's always having solar flares

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i don't work personally with those solar

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flares but the keen interest that i do

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have in you know orbital

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mechanics and stuff like that

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i'm not overly concerned about them

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and but i am monitoring just that of

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uh what do you do during extensive

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stimulator training

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that's a really good question so

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part of our our training down here is to

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prepare ourselves for

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contingency or bad days

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here in operations whether something

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fails or something isn't going right the

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way we expect it to then we use our

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simulator training to basically simulate

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our days

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and then we have trainers in the back

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room that will cause things to fail

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or cause activities to go wrong and they

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are building our skills to

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learn how to react to those in the

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shortest amount of time possible

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and some days can get pretty pretty um

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all right i'm going to be majoring in

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electrical engineering next year at penn

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state and i was wondering what kind of

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jobs are available to electrical

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engineers at nasa

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well there's a wide range of jobs here

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at um at nasa

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along with many of the agencies around

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the globe

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skill sets like a specific engineering

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type just to give you an idea here in

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robotics

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we have

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mechanical aerospace electrical

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biomedical we have mathematicians we

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have one geologist

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so

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you bring with you whether it's

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electrical or mechanical but more the

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skill sets that you've learned or are

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willing to learn when you come here to

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apply for the job

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all right thanks i have another question

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what differences have you noticed

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between canadian and american space

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size and scope

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um really i mean uh nasa's budget for

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the space program budget is probably

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about 50 times the size of the canadian

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one but i mean the country's larger as

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well i mean you're talking a population

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of 300 million versus 30 million it also

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comes down to priorities um you know i

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find that

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canada spends a lot of its resources

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trying to partner with other

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space agencies such as nasa or the

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european space agency

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to try to build towards bigger projects

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whereas nasa has the capability of doing

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a lot of projects by itself

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both of them are pushing

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forward in space development

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and it's really just coming down to the

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scale of that push and and you know the

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prior priorities of what's important to

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each agency

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the first uh space station commander for

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the canadian space agency just actually

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wrapped up his time at the space station

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and landed back in kazakhstan on monday

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um i'm just really curious to know this

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but did you ever witness any accidents

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during your time at nasa

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alright another question

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what planet would you like nasa to

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explore after mars

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that's a tough one um i i probably go

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further out i'm gonna say i'd like them

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all right one more question

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what is your favorite astronaut food

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sorry favorite

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astronaut movies

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no astronaut food

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oh astronaut food

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um it's really interesting to see what

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they take up on orbit

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for food

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most of it's dehydrated

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or canned

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and i think of all the

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astronaut food i've tasted here on the

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ground surprisingly i was i was best

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most enjoyed the

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thank you

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all right do we have any other questions

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from east stroudsburg

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um

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someone coming up from the back over

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here

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okay excellent looks like we finished

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all of our 16 questions looks like these

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are kind of off the cuff so um our next

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question is coming from someone

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okay she's coming up

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oh yes

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okay

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my comrades in the back would like to

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know

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really good question um

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i'm not sure whether belief or

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statistical possibility is is the same

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thing but i would hope that in all that

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space out there that there's at least

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someone else

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um just to compare i think of what goes

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okay

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and also how does scuba diving compare

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to being in space

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well having never been in space right

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now i would hope it was somewhat similar

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but

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i love scuba diving and i hope one day

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it does prepare me to go into space so i

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hope it is very similar

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we have a group that does uh what we

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call analog missions which is kind of

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simulated missions um on the ocean floor

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to to practice for going on

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planetary exploration missions in the

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future it's called the nemo

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the nemo missions and we've had i think

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16 of them so

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i think a lot of the astronauts say that

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that's really helpful for training

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all right thank you guys so much for all

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those questions and uh thank you mr dyer

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for coming and actually doing these

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question and answer and this little

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interview we really appreciate your time

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are there any final words you'd like to

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say at east strasbourg

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i know i've really enjoyed uh talking to

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you people you guys and um

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and a lot of excellent questions i'm

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glad you guys are thinking really hard

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about this stuff i hope i've been able

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to at least

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get you interested in the space program

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as much at least as much as i am and

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hopefully one of you guys down there

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will will end up down here

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working at

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nasa with as much interest and interest